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The Deadmines: the dungeon guide for WoW Forever

The Deadmines is the hideout of the Defias Brotherhood under Moonbrook in Westfall: a long mine that opens into a cavern with a pirate ship. Edwin VanCleef waits on the top deck. The dungeon itself is the same as in Classic, but nearly all of its loot is new in WoW Forever.

The portal of the Deadmines at the end of a green-lit mine tunnel with two lanterns, a screenshot from the beta of World of Warcraft: Forever

At a glance

Levels 14-24, bosses of level 19 to 21
Entrance The Defias Hideout in Moonbrook, Westfall, /way 42 72
Bosses 8, of which Miner Johnson is a rare
Quests 6, all Alliance
Loot Almost every boss drop is blue in Forever
Short name DM or VC

Getting there

The entrance is the Defias Hideout, the large building in the southwest corner of Moonbrook at /way 42 72. Go down through the maze of caves below it until you reach the portal at the bottom.

On the way down, a side passage leads into the part of the mine that is full of undead. That area lies outside the dungeon, but every monster there is elite. Two quests of Wilder Thistlenettle are done there, so bring the group.

The Alliance has Sentinel Hill close by. The Horde has no quests in the Deadmines and a long road through Westfall, but the loot is the same for both factions.

The route

  1. The tunnels. A straight path through the mine to the first boss, Rhahk’Zor, who guards a door.
  2. The junction. Past the door, Miner Johnson can stand on the left. He is a rare and is not always there.
  3. The lumber camp. Clear the Goblin Woodcarvers, then pull Sneed’s Shredder.
  4. The foundry. Gilnid works among Goblin Craftsmen and Engineers. Clear at least one side of the room first.
  5. The cove. The tunnel opens into a large cavern. Cross the docks to the ship, where Mr. Smite waits on the lower deck.
  6. The ship. After Mr. Smite, Cookie is on the left. Climb up to Captain Greenskin and finally to Edwin VanCleef on the top deck.
  7. The way out. A tunnel at the back of the ship leads outside. Many groups kill Cookie on the way back, from the lower deck by the gangplank.

The quests

Quest Where it starts Level Reward
Collecting Memories
Shareable
Stormwind, Dwarven District: Wilder Thistlenettle /way 65 21 14 Not known yet
Oh Brother…
Shareable
Stormwind, Dwarven District: Wilder Thistlenettle /way 65 21 15 Not known yet
Underground Assault
Shareable
Stormwind, Dwarven District: Shoni the Shilent /way 55 13
The chain starts with Gnoarn in Tinker Town, Ironforge.
15 Not known yet
Red Silk Bandanas Westfall, Sentinel Hill: Scout Riell /way 56 47
Complete 6 quests first, starting with The Defias Brotherhood from Gryan Stoutmantle.
14 Not known yet
The Defias Brotherhood Westfall, Sentinel Hill: Gryan Stoutmantle /way 56 47
The end of a chain of six quests with the same name.
14 Chausses of Westfall, Staff of Westfall or Tunic of Westfall
The Unsent Letter Inside the dungeon: An Unsent Letter, a drop from Edwin VanCleef 16 Not known yet
Destruction in Deadmines Westfall, Sentinel Hill: Alba Fairmoon /way 52.4 53.0
New in Forever. The end of a chain of seven quests that starts with Testing the Wells.
9 4,050 experience, 50 reputation with Stormwind

The level is the lowest level at which the quest can be picked up, according to Wowhead. The rewards come from Wowhead; where it lists none, they are not known yet.

Collecting Memories

Wilder Thistlenettle in the Dwarven District of Stormwind wants 4 Miners’ Union Cards. They drop from the undead outside the dungeon, in the haunted part of the mine: Undead Excavators, Skeletal Miners and Undead Dynamiters. Foreman Thistlenettle does not drop them. Every undead there is elite.

Oh Brother…

The same Wilder Thistlenettle asks for Thistlenettle’s Badge. Foreman Thistlenettle carries it at the far end of the haunted mine, a level 20 elite surrounded by other elites. Do this one together with Collecting Memories.

Wilder Thistlenettle with a yellow exclamation mark in a tavern in Stormwind, a screenshot from World of Warcraft

The haunted part of the mine outside the Deadmines, with undead miners between the beams, a screenshot from World of Warcraft

Foreman Thistlenettle among other undead at the end of the haunted mine, a screenshot from World of Warcraft

Underground Assault

The chain begins with Gnoarn in Tinker Town in Ironforge, who sends you to Shoni the Shilent in Stormwind. She wants the Gnoam Sprecklesprocket, which drops from Sneed’s Shredder in the lumber camp of the dungeon.

Shoni the Shilent, the quest giver of Underground Assault in Stormwind, a screenshot from World of Warcraft

Sneed’s Shredder in the lumber camp of the Deadmines, a screenshot from World of Warcraft

Red Silk Bandanas

Scout Riell at Sentinel Hill wants 10 Red Silk Bandanas. Every monster with Defias in its name can drop one, Defias Miners included, but the elites drop them almost every time. The patrols of Evokers, Henchmen and Overseers, and the pirates in the deeper part of the dungeon, are the quickest source. The elites in the caves outside drop them too.

A Defias Overseer and a Defias Evoker on patrol in the Deadmines, a screenshot from World of Warcraft

Defias Pirates on the docks of the cove in the Deadmines, a screenshot from World of Warcraft

The Defias Brotherhood

Gryan Stoutmantle at Sentinel Hill only hands out this quest at the end of a long chain: six quests that all carry the name The Defias Brotherhood, and that take you across Westfall, to Lakeshire and back. The last step is to kill Edwin VanCleef and bring his head to Gryan.

Gryan Stoutmantle at Sentinel Hill in Westfall, a screenshot from World of Warcraft

Edwin VanCleef on the top deck of his ship in the Deadmines, a screenshot from World of Warcraft

The Unsent Letter

Edwin VanCleef drops An Unsent Letter, which starts this quest from level 16. Bring it to Baros Alexston, the City Architect, in City Hall at Cathedral Square in Stormwind. It is the first step of a long chain that continues with The Stockade Riots in The Stockade.

The quest window of An Unsent Letter on the ship, with the body of Edwin VanCleef in the background, a screenshot from World of Warcraft

Baros Alexston in City Hall at Cathedral Square in Stormwind, a screenshot from World of Warcraft

Paladins of the Alliance also come here for The Test of Righteousness, the end of the Tome of Valor chain that ends with Verigan’s Fist: the Whitestone Oak Lumber drops from the Goblin Woodcarvers near the start. Horde Paladins get a counterpart that is new in Forever, A Moon-Kissed Blade, writes Wowhead. The chain starts in Bandarion Keep in Tirisfal Glades; Lumina Windsinger hands out the quest in the crypt in Silverpine Forest, /way 43 40. Both are in the dungeon guide.

Destruction in Deadmines

New in Forever. Alba Fairmoon at Sentinel Hill in Westfall, /way 52.4 53.0, looks for the source of a poison that ruins the land. The trail leads to the forge in the Deadmines. The chain can be picked up from level 9; its last quests are level 18.

  1. Testing the Wells. Take a water sample with the Well Water Sample Kit at the wells of the Jansen Stead and the Molsen Farm, in the northeast of Westfall.
  2. Murloc Gills. Bring 7 Longshore Murloc Gills from the murlocs along the coast.
  3. The State of the Mines. Kill 4 Kobold Diggers and 6 Riverpaw Miners in Jangolode Mine or the Gold Coast Quarry.
  4. Moonbrook Espionage. Collect 8 Suspicious Industrial Supplies from the crates around Moonbrook.
  5. A Dynamite Plan. In Stormwind, hand in 10 Rough Dynamite, made with Engineering from Rough Stone and Linen Cloth, or bought at the auction house.
  6. Explosive Consultation. Back to Alba Fairmoon in Westfall.
  7. Destruction in Deadmines. Plant the Extra-Destructive Explosives by the forge, in the room of Gilnid. Alba then waits at the exit of the Deadmines, in the hills behind Moonbrook, /way 38.4 83.4. Reward: 4,050 experience and 50 reputation with Stormwind.
  8. Destruction in Deadmines, a second quest with the same name. Use the detonator at the exit. Reward: 680 experience, 5 silver and 50 reputation with Stormwind.

No item reward is known for the chain.

The bosses and their loot

The loot per boss comes from Wowhead, with the stats from the files of the beta.

Rhahk’Zor

A level 19 elite ogre with two Defias Watchmen that attack from range. Mark the Watchmen and kill them first; Rhahk’Zor himself is a simple fight with a heavy slam on the tank.

Item New in Forever
Rockslicer Blue, mines Copper, Tin, Silver and Iron without Mining, 30 charges
Rhahk’Zor’s Hammer Blue instead of white, with Stamina and up to 7 spell damage and healing

More about the axe in the post about Rockslicer.

Miner Johnson, a rare

A level 19 rare elite at the junction past Rhahk’Zor, on the left. A plain fight on the tank.

Item New in Forever
Gold-plated Buckler Absorbs 15 Physical damage from the next hit after you enter combat
Miner’s Cape Blue, with Mining +2 and Attack Power, more against Elementals

Sneed’s Shredder and Sneed

The Shredder is level 20. When it breaks, Sneed jumps out with a new threat table, so the tank has to pick him up again. Sneed casts Disarm. Every party member who gets the tank’s attention suffers Distracting Pain.

Item New in Forever
Buzz Saw Blue, Agility and Stamina instead of Strength
Buzzer Blade A caster dagger now: up to 22 spell damage and healing
Taskmaster Axe A healer’s axe: up to 45 healing
Gold-flecked Gloves Strength and 5 Fire Resistance instead of Intellect

Gilnid

A level 20 elite goblin with a Goblin Craftsman and a Goblin Engineer at his side. His Molten Metal lowers the threat of the tank, so the healer has to keep the tank topped up while it lasts.

Item New in Forever
Smelting Pants Smelting Copper, Tin, Bronze and Silver goes 25% faster
Lavishly Jeweled Ring Same stats, now unique-equipped

Mr. Smite

A level 20 elite tauren with two stealthed Defias Blackguards. The fight has three phases, each one starting with Smite Stomp. In the second phase he fights with two weapons and hits much harder; that is the moment for the tank’s cooldowns.

Item New in Forever
First Mate Band New: the first half of the Partners in Crime set, see below
Thief’s Blade Raises the chance of Pick Pocket and Distract by 1%
Smite’s Reaver Blue, Strength and Spirit
Smite’s Mighty Hammer Unchanged

Captain Greenskin

A level 20 elite goblin with a Defias Squallshaper, a Defias Pirate and a Defias Companion. He is easy to pull by accident from the ship, so approach his deck with care. Kill the two elite adds first.

Item New in Forever
Impaling Harpoon Blue, Agility and Intellect, and level 17 instead of 20
Emberstone Staff A caster staff: up to 24 spell damage and healing, and Fire Resistance
Blackened Defias Belt Blue, 18 Attack Power and no Strength

Edwin VanCleef

A level 21 elite with two stealthed Blackguards. At half health he calls two more with VanCleef’s Allies. Kill the first pair, then crowd control or ignore the second pair and burn VanCleef. Make sure Captain Greenskin is dead before you pull him.

Item New in Forever
Blackened Defias Armor New set bonuses, see below
Corsair’s Overshirt Up to 10 healing, a little less Spirit
Cape of the Brotherhood Almost unchanged, 1 Agility less
Cruel Barb Unchanged

An optional elite, on the left of the ship after Mr. Smite. His Cookie’s Cooking heals him and can be interrupted.

Item New in Forever
Cookie’s Stirring Rod Cooking goes 25% faster, and 3 Fire Resistance
Cookie’s Tenderizer Blue, Spirit, and a chance on hit to Tenderize the target
Blueprint: Cookie’s Feast New: places Cookie’s Feast at a campsite, Cooking 140

The Deadmines also drops the Blueprint: Journeyman Campfire, one of the blueprints for camping.

Defias Leather

The five pieces of Defias Leather are blue now and need level 14 to 17. The set bonuses are new.

Pieces Bonus
2 +5 Arcane Resistance
3 +15 Attack Power against Humanoids
4 5% chance on a melee hit from behind to make the target Bleed for 68 to 83 Physical damage over 5 seconds
5 Daggers +1

The pieces: Blackened Defias Armor from VanCleef, Blackened Defias Belt from Greenskin, and Blackened Defias Leggings, Blackened Defias Gloves and Blackened Defias Boots, which drop from monsters in the dungeon.

Partners in Crime

First Mate Band is a new ring from Mr. Smite: 4 Strength and 5 Stamina at level 17. It is the first half of a set with Band of the Better Half, an epic ring for level 60. Wearing both gives +22 Strength and a chance on a melee swing to gain 50 Strength for 10 seconds. Where the second ring drops is not known. More in the post about the set.

The stats in the files of the beta have changed since that post: the First Mate Band went from 6 Strength and 2 Stamina to 4 and 5, and the set bonus from 20 to 22 Strength.

What is not known yet

  • The drop rates of the boss loot.
  • The quest rewards that Wowhead does not list yet.
  • The Band of the Better Half: where it drops.

Frequently asked questions

What level is the Deadmines in WoW Forever?

Groups take it on from level 14 to 24. The bosses are level 19 to 21.

Where is the entrance to the Deadmines?

In Westfall, inside the Defias Hideout, the large building in the southwest of Moonbrook at /way 42 72. The portal is at the bottom of the caves below it.

Has the loot of the Deadmines changed in WoW Forever?

Yes. Almost every boss drop is blue now, many with a new effect. Rockslicer mines ore without the tradeskill, Smelting Pants smelt faster, and the Defias Leather set has new bonuses.

Can the Horde do the Deadmines quests?

No. All seven quests of the Deadmines are Alliance quests. Horde players can still run the dungeon for its loot.

Sources: Warcraft Tavern, the dungeon guide, Warcraft Tavern, the quests, Wowhead, the dungeon guide, Wowhead, the dungeon quests